loud tapping noise under load and lost power

[B6lee]

might sell my old ones for a few pennies now i know they were fine oh well. i didnt expect it to be fixed nothings ever that simple

cam timing has been checked yea ???

 

[fq-craigus]

i cant check the bottom cam as i dont know where the timing marks are, i tried calling chris earlier but couldnt get through to see if he checked it. let me google it actually to see where they are,

 

[mike evo iv]

looks like a new crank or engine mate. you prob read all my treads iv put up on this page so far youve most likely got piston slap mate that what happens when you run with no oil, been there done that lol:wtf:. like i said you can check the crank your self just take your oil pan and caps off and you will most likely find swarff in your pan . theres no point taking it all the way to the garage just to find out that and cost you. its gona have to be towed afterwards anyway so you might aswel check it be for it goes mate :ninja:

 

[fq-craigus]

ill be honest mate i dont wanna be gettin much more involved inside the engine, i didnt the tappets but thats as far as ill go, im gonna take it up to the guys who do this for a living and not sell phones, i dont antisipate a small bill to fix it as much as it pains me to say but im done with throwing money at it on a hope that it works. how much roughly did it cost you to rebuild after you got the piston slap mate

 

[Jonny IX]

looks like a new crank or engine mate. you prob read all my treads iv put up on this page so far youve most likely got piston slap mate that what happens when you run with no oil, been there done that lol:wtf:. like i said you can check the crank your self just take your oil pan and caps off and you will most likely find swarff in your pan . theres no point taking it all the way to the garage just to find out that and cost you. its gona have to be towed afterwards anyway so you might aswel check it be for it goes mate :ninja:

+1 craig this was my first thoughts, but im no expert pal. Consider it a Expensive lesson to have learned mate .

ill be honest mate i dont wanna be gettin much more involved inside the engine, i didnt the tappets but thats as far as ill go, im gonna take it up to the guys who do this for a living and not sell phones, i dont antisipate a small bill to fix it as much as it pains me to say but im done with throwing money at it on a hope that it works. how much roughly did it cost you to rebuild after you got the piston slap mate

Depends what you wanna do?, Just buy a standard replacement £3000 + I recon ??

 

[B6lee]

i cant check the bottom cam as i dont know where the timing marks are, i tried calling chris earlier but couldnt get through to see if he checked it. let me google it actually to see where they are,

is the lower cam cover and large bottom pully on or off the engine ???

 

[fq-craigus]

its all intact i not taken anything off apart from the inspection panel in the wheel arch mate

 

[mike evo iv]

iv got an evo 8 race spec balanced crank and pistons off el they cost me £290 im changing all the bearings at the bottem end which is about another £200 which is worth doing if your renewing your crank. im changing all belts cambelt kit and fan belt £85 also im doing the clutch and lighten flyhee,l flywheel off el for £180 which was £320 brand new im fitting an evo 6 clutch which is a minor upgrade for my evo iv which is £210 from camskills. im doing it all my self with my best bud jay2k6 off the fourm:disgusted: which is hand. i really hope it want be piston slap for you mate but sounds like to me

 

[Jonny IX]

. DUh double post weirdness !!!

 

[Jonny IX]

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[fq-craigus]

uckin hell i think im gonna let the pros find the fault and go from there, all i can do is hope and pray and if not ill rob a bank gimme a hand if you want and split it to fund costs lol. im lost with it all,

 

[fq-craigus]

+1 craig this was my first thoughts, but im no expert pal. Consider it a Expensive lesson to have learned mate .



Depends what you wanna do?, Just buy a standard replacement £3000 + I recon ??

ive just been given so many reasons what it could be. chris was persistant it was tappets ive ruled that out now i suppose

 

[B6lee]

its all intact i not taken anything off apart from the inspection panel in the wheel arch mate

look down at the big bottom pully and youl see it you rotate it that there is a small notch out the inside edge of it (closest to camcover) around the 1:00 position if looking from the side of the car youll see some markings on the cover that the notch in the pully wheel should line up with. at the same time the cams will also line up with the notches in the rocker cover. think of its as all 3 marks must line up at the same time

 

[mike evo iv]

im just lucky that my mates good with cars im learning as i go mate like you lol. you dont have to do all that im doing if its just the crank get one from a breakers off el or the lads ine the garage might find something for ya you will will only need new berings with it. might cost about 400 in parts it labour that the might charge the most for, as i found when you want to take something small off the car you have to take 4 or 5 different things off to get at what you want lol. its not a small job to tke out the crank:disgusted:

 

[B6lee]

Easiest way to check, the outter crank pulley (the 1 that eventually fails and flys off the car) sits on a dowel, when the crank is timed up in the correct position that dowel sits at the 3 o'clock position, and you should just about beable to see it even with the front wheel on.

then check that the 2 cam timing marks line through wth the marking on the rocker cover perfectly. if it doesnt then rotate the crank i revolution untill they do. use a couple long 1/2" extension bars and a ratchet to rotate the crank. if you cant get all 3 to line up at the same time then the timing is out and the tapping noise is youe valves banging against your pistons :sad:
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[leo]

look for piston slap i have been through all this last month put a camera down each bore if you see any linnes going up and down y will have piston slap and if you have done compresion test and this comes out good does not mean much my compresion test read 150-150-140-140 and it still was f****d if you done all that and look in the sump i took my balace shfts out cus one was loose put it back togeather with kit and i was very p**t off the tap was still there:wtf:start again head off then i found the problem piston slap on no 4 :blush:

 

[mike evo iv]

sorry if im scaring you mate but you might aswel expect the worst then atleast your not supprised when they tell you what the damage is mate. im just about to start mine been waiting for the good weather my cars been off the road since xmas iv been gathering part as i go along. nearly got all my bits thank f**k lol:wtf:

 

[mike evo iv]

look for piston slap i have been through all this last month put a camera down each bore if you see any linnes going up and down y will have piston slap and if you have done compresion test and this comes out good does not mean much my compresion test read 150-150-140-140 and it still was f****d if you done all that and look in the sump i took my balace shfts out cus one was loose put it back togeather with kit and i was very p**t off the tap was still there:wtf:start again head off then i found the problem piston slap on no 4 :blush:

sound spot on mate thats what i said it will either be number 3, second in from the left or number 4 piston :disgusted:

 

[leo]

yes but it is not a quick or cheap fix i have wighed it up it will be easyer to get another engine than to fix it cus almost defo bores are damaged so total strip and if he has got to pay a garage to do that job its very exspensive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:sad:sorry i know how you feel

 

[fq-craigus]

I'm just gonna get it to the specialists to find the fault for me once I know the prob I can start collecting parts, gonna be a long road ahead I think