Geek/Independant Mappers Accountability

[chaz7]

Was talking with a fellow Evo owner today and the topic of Geek/Private mappers became topic of conversation. Now as good a job as these guys do, a few failures have come to light of late which MAY have been the result of poor mapping by these people who offer such a service. Question I have, are they accountable for the work carried out?? IE, should a failure occur and it be the result of the cars map, should the geek/private mapper be liable?? Geeks/Independants feel free to comment. This is far from a criticism, just purely a matter of interest

 

[evogeof]

there are only 3 or 4 people allowed to use the term geekmapping/mapper/mapped anyone else using this term is a pure FAKE.
they may be mappers but in no way allowed to call them self geek mappers

 

[Simon@NTS]

IMO your mapping needs to be pretty bad to make it fail, plus you be surprised how many people "mess" after mappings been done

 

[evoaps]

there are only 3 or 4 people allowed to use the term geekmapping/mapper/mapped anyone else using this term is a pure FAKE.
they may be mappers but in no way allowed to call them self geek mappers

I heard you are an undercover geek mapper

 

[Simon@NTS]

Mapped an Evo 4 to 1.4 bar, threw a leg out of bed, 3 days later, I felt very bad for him, found out by a close friend who also new him that he went in the car said it was quick for a 4 running 1.8 bar!!!!.......

 

[Simon@NTS]

Lol I'm not a geekmapper lol you could get me sued lol

 

[evoaps]

Lol I'm not a geekmapper lol you could get me sued lol

I was talking to geof

 

[evogeof]

I was talking to geof

ye ye :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

 

[Simon@NTS]

Lol ok

 

[chaz7]

Doesn't surprise me Si. Very grey area hence my thread I can imagine on a punters point of view, they will feel the person responsible for the mapping should be liable. But from the mappers point of view, they can't be held responsible if further things have been done since they carried out there tune.

6 of 1, half a dozen of the other

 

[evogeof]

sure i read somewhere that the 3/4 real geekmappers are working through traders and may have there own insurances.. whats this thread about again ???

 

[Simon@NTS]

Or even something as trivial as a vacuum hose popping off after mapping cause of the extra boost, causing it to run lean........... I do like to use 3 ports because for the extra time to set up is worth it so people can't mess

 

[chaz7]

Geof, let's see if they are through traders if Stokies failure is down to mapping and CPP stand the warranty..

 

[GG205rob]

You pay less for the map, there is less accountability, in my opinion thats part of the risk you take. No offence to any mapper, i expect lots of these mappers are better than some that work for tuning companies.

Tuned cars go wrong, simple as that, we all know the risks of going for more power. That wouldnt stop most of us though.

 

[evogeof]

Geof, let's see if they are through traders if Stokies failure is down to mapping and CPP stand the warranty..

im not getting involved in this kev, not a clue about mapping so ill keep out of what i know nothing about :angel:

 

[chaz7]

Make a good point Rob!

 

[chaz7]

I'm not having dig at CPP, was using that as an example to your comment on geeks offering there services through established companies CPP are one of the better companies out there as far as I'm aware

 

[Simon@NTS]

Also some of these cars are over 15 years old and expect to increase power by 30/40% on there stock internals!!!

 

[chaz7]

This is true Si. Would it not be worth while getting a customer to sign a disclaimer after explaining all the risks to avoid any comeback? Or would it put too many people off??

 

[Simon@NTS]

Well I try and explain every step I do and what the logs mean, majority of people understand but I like to show them the logs for afr and knock etc to show what the cars doin