Which Computer to buy??

J3ayy

J3ayy

New Member
Gonna treat myself to a new computer this xmas :D

I have my heart set on a IMAC 27" i know some people dont like them & others swear by them but i dont want to spend £1300 on one & regret it!

I mainly use it for surfing the net, editing photos & downloading/playing music.

Is there other computers that are close or better than the Apple IMAC??

Thanks


:D
 
Nick

Nick

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There is nothing like an iMac! Best OS ever is OSX and the iMac its self i super nice.
Dont buy retail though, spec up what you want and PM me!
 
rich_f

rich_f

New Member
I'm going for a mac mini at Xmas,

surprising straight forward and easy to use.
Require much less maintenance than windows
And it's great with editing photos and videos
 
HermaN

HermaN

Member
Get a PC and install OSX on it. ;) Save yourself a load of cash on the fancy case, the hardware these days is all standard PC hardware anyway like Intel processors opposed to the PPC G4 processors they used to run back in the day.
 
Nick

Nick

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Get a PC and install OSX on it. ;) Save yourself a load of cash on the fancy case, the hardware these days is all standard PC hardware anyway like Intel processors opposed to the PPC G4 processors they used to run back in the day.

Or dont as that would be illegal and a right royal pain in the ass when trying to do things like updates. It may be the same hardware but the firmware is very different.
Plus apple hardware 'just works'. For example I am on my computers all the time. I used to replace an £800 laptop every year. My current Macbook pro would have been £2000 retail but ive had it for 2 years and its still near perfect.
 
J3ayy

J3ayy

New Member
I will have a look mate on speck & let you know. All I want is a decent amount of storage with a fast ram processor.
 
HermaN

HermaN

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Or dont as that would be illegal and a right royal pain in the ass when trying to do things like updates. It may be the same hardware but the firmware is very different.
Plus apple hardware 'just works'. For example I am on my computers all the time. I used to replace an £800 laptop every year. My current Macbook pro would have been £2000 retail but ive had it for 2 years and its still near perfect.

TBH, dump the lot and go Linux, there is a reason why servers run either that or UNIX. However to be fair the MAC OS is Linux based. My gripe is just overpriced hardware. Like you said, the only difference is the FW.

With regards to replacing £800 laptops each year you need to buy better laptops. :) As we know, the hardware is identical, so if you are having issues with PC's then it's most likely a software issue.

If you get a good quality laptop (ie ASUS, who also manufacture Sony laptops & PS3 motherboards) then it will last just as long as the Apple hardware at a fraction of the cost. I don't see why we should be 2x the price for identical hardware in a white case with an Apple logo.

I have had my current 13.3" carbon fibre chassis VAIO since xmas 2008. Cos me £1500 at the time, but it's carbon fibre, weighs 1.79kg, LED screen which is literally less than 5mm thick and excellent quality, top build quality, 2x graphics processors, an integrated intel for better battery life and an NVIDIA card for more demanding things, Intel Core2Duo processor, 2GB RAM and even a sim card slot for WWAN etc, etc.

Was the top spec machine at the time and the only time it has ever missed a beat is when Windows messes up. It still runs everything I throw at it without fail (apart from games of course). Was an expensive buy, but even 3 years later it's never missed a beat and it's literally on 24/7, the only time it gets turned off is when I need to take it somewhere.

There was also an ASUS at the time that was about £1200, but the only thing that put me off it was leather palm rests, other than that it actually had a couple of extra toys compared to the VAIO.

Not sure on the spec of your Mac, but if you had paid £2000 for one at the same time I bought mine it would have been less specced for £500 extra (or £800 extra in the case of the ASUS) and that's what annoys me about Apple.
 
Nick

Nick

Superstar Admin
Im afraid im going to have to wave my geek e-penis here. Prepare for a schooling ;) :whistling:

TBH, dump the lot and go Linux,
Its a nice idea but just not practical. In nearly all cases people want things which are not simple for them to do on linux. Even with the advent of great distros such as Ubuntu and Mint there is still pleanty which requires a good working knowledge of the software.

there is a reason why servers run either that or UNIX.
Well practically nothing runs UNIX ;) But yes Linux servers ftw. (Preferably Red Hat based). But using servers as a base for moving your workstation to the same software is just crazy. I have multiple racks of servers, not one has a monitor.

However to be fair the MAC OS is Linux based.
Near enough, parts from FreeBSD and NetBSD went into NeXTSTEP. But yes its unix background is what makes it great. Its got all the nich shiny bits so you never need to get dirty but if you want to, pop the bonnet and make it dance.

My gripe is just overpriced hardware. Like you said, the only difference is the FW.
And build quality, and support, and a multitude of other fringe benefits.
EG I have swapped out 11 month old machines under warranty. They just ship the latest model and usually better spec with no bother. Dont get that with HP or Sony and the likes.

With regards to replacing £800 laptops each year you need to buy better laptops. :)
I have experience of practically every manufacturer out there. Nothing could compete with apple in terms of longevity, build quality and performance.

As we know, the hardware is identical, so if you are having issues with PC's then it's most likely a software issue.
Im quite capable of running software, I even ran vista at one point ;)
The issues are many, but it tends to be the physical hardware failing. Circuits failing, ram failing, capacitors failing, hinges, cases etc.
But yes windows is enough to drive anyone to distraction, OSX is simply brilliant. It is so polished. But as above, it does give you the tools to do what you want if you want to go deeper.

If you get a good quality laptop (ie ASUS, who also manufacture Sony laptops & PS3 motherboards) then it will last just as long as the Apple hardware at a fraction of the cost. I don't see why we should be 2x the price for identical hardware in a white case with an Apple logo.
As above, not the hard work I put my hardware through.

I have had my current 13.3" carbon fibre chassis VAIO since xmas 2008. Cos me £1500 at the time, but it's carbon fibre, weighs 1.79kg, LED screen which is literally less than 5mm thick and excellent quality, top build quality, 2x graphics processors, an integrated intel for better battery life and an NVIDIA card for more demanding things, Intel Core2Duo processor, 2GB RAM and even a sim card slot for WWAN etc, etc.
Spledid, £100 more than my better mac for a similar spec ;)
Ok I cheat in that I dont pay retail. I know your point but im afraid in my experience with a large user base it just doesnt stack up.

Was the top spec machine at the time and the only time it has ever missed a beat is when Windows messes up. It still runs everything I throw at it without fail (apart from games of course). Was an expensive buy, but even 3 years later it's never missed a beat and it's literally on 24/7, the only time it gets turned off is when I need to take it somewhere.

Not sure on the spec of your Mac, but if you had paid £2000 for one at the same time I bought mine it would have been less specced for £500 extra (or £800 extra in the case of the ASUS) and that's what annoys me about Apple.
If Id paid £2k for it I would have paid too much being in the trade.
But yes I could have bought a PC cheaper, but I know it would not have had the reliability of this Mac.
 
dessimpson

dessimpson

Active Member
Why limit the software you can get?
Buy a good spec windows PC and the world is your oyster.

I had a mac mini for a couple of months and sold it as it was so limited.
All you can do on them is browse the web. You can do that with a £150 pc!!
 
Nick

Nick

Superstar Admin
You can do everything on a Mac you can do on Windows.
Sure windows does something better (likes games) but Macs do somethings better too (usability, stability, security).

Dont get me wrong, im not apple through and through. I make far more money from windows users but honestly I truly believe Apple provide a far better computer.
 
J3ayy

J3ayy

New Member
See I don't really play games on my computer as all my games are on the PS3.
 
dessimpson

dessimpson

Active Member
I just think they are way too expensive for what you can do with them.
If you're not going to play games on them then why the hell would you spend that much money buying one?

If you spend £1300-odd on a computer that you don't want to play games on then you need your head examined!!
What the hell do you get for your money?? Oh, it's really fast!!...... At opening web pages??
 
HermaN

HermaN

Member
If you spend £1300-odd on a computer that you don't want to play games on then you need your head examined!!
What the hell do you get for your money?? Oh, it's really fast!!...... At opening web pages??

For me at least, it's a 13.3" laptop...its not made for gaming, but it ran all the engineering applications I had at uni just fine which is what I bought it for. Oh and I also needed something small and light for traveling seeing as I studied @ Reading and came back to Aberdeen for the holidays. For apps like MATlab & Solid Works you need decent hardware. Good spec is not just used for gaming. ;)

Actually, that reminds me, I graduated in 2008, so I actually bought it in xmas 2007 not 2008.

@ Nick, I'll wave my geek e-penis back at you tomorrow. :whistling: However I have to be up at 6am for a drift day tomorrow, so don't have time to wave it about just now, but it's big and hard! haha
 
dessimpson

dessimpson

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For me at least, it's a 13.3" laptop...its not made for gaming, but it ran all the engineering applications I had at uni just fine which is what I bought it for. Oh and I also needed something small and light for traveling seeing as I studied @ Reading and came back to Aberdeen for the holidays. For apps like MATlab & Solid Works you need decent hardware. Good spec is not just used for gaming. ;)

Actually, that reminds me, I graduated in 2008, so I actually bought it in xmas 2007 not 2008.

@ Nick, I'll wave my geek e-penis back at you tomorrow. :whistling: However I have to be up at 6am for a drift day tomorrow, so don't have time to wave it about just now, but it's big and hard! haha

That wasn't aimed at you :)
It was aimed at people that buy macs. I know there's lots you can do with a good spec PC but I just can't see any reason for buying a really expensive good spec mac, other than photo editing.

I just think they're soooo limited in the software that's available for them.
 

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