Problems fitting hel brake pipes

[Dirtmatt]

Ordered up some hel brake lines for my 8. Thought I would get them fitted today, didn't expect it to take that long to get them all off.

Didn't go to plan, osf hose wasn't to bad, did start to round off on the nipple off the hard pipe, but it did crack off.

Looked to do NSF next, same as the drivers side I sprayed up and let it soak for a few minutes. Was slipping on the spanner. Put grips on it and it tried to slip on there. When it did hold tight the hard pipe started to twist! so currently I have left it as looks like I could snap the pipe to the abs.

Nsr hose looks to be seized much like the front, didn't want to budge.

Basically too king of ideas on how to get them off? Going to see if I can get a replacement front hard pipe to the abs module as don't like the fact the hose has twisted. This on previous cars has been a simple job!!

 

[fq-craigus]

when it comes to these hardpipes and siezing its a bit prob, i deal with this on a daily basis, its a case of loads of ac90 or wd40, tapping the nut with a small hammer too loosen corrosion is first off, failing that you can try a little heat on the nut, not too much though, that usually works

 

[JakeMac]

Did you use a wire brush and proper brake pipe spanner or just an open ended?

Also what kind of grips are you using?

My advise would be to get youself a brake pipe flaring tool, some 3/16 copper brake pipe and joiners and make a new pipe, would be a lot easier than fitting a pre-fabricated pipe, depending on length and routing

 

[Dirtmatt]

when it comes to these hardpipes and siezing its a bit prob, i deal with this on a daily basis, its a case of loads of ac90 or wd40, tapping the nut with a small hammer too loosen corrosion is first off, failing that you can try a little heat on the nut, not too much though, that usually works

Used a good bit of wd40 and penetrating/loosening spray.. Left to soak over night see if that helps, I did give them a two or two with the hammer.. Think I have mashed up the NSF hard pipe so going to need to replace but will try heat on the rears tomorrow, cheers mate

 

[Dirtmatt]

Did you use a wire brush and proper brake pipe spanner or just an open ended?

Also what kind of grips are you using?

My advise would be to get youself a brake pipe flaring tool, some 3/16 copper brake pipe and joiners and make a new pipe, would be a lot easier than fitting a pre-fabricated pipe, depending on length and routing

No wire brush but did clean up what I could.. Normal spanner, going to try a proper brake one. Long as its the right size.

Used mole grips to get extra bite! Know it won't do any good but needed to see if I could crack it off.

The front pipe has so many bends in it would be there ages rather buy pre made if I have to.

 

[JakeMac]

No wire brush but did clean up what I could.. Normal spanner, going to try a proper brake one. Long as its the right size.

Used mole grips to get extra bite! Know it won't do any good but needed to see if I could crack it off.

The front pipe has so many bends in it would be there ages rather buy pre made if I have to.

Mole grips are good mate, there my plan B when doing brake pipes and normally work lol, if you get pre-fabbed pipe it will be more of a struggle trying to feed it through because of the bends

 

[B6lee]

As already said, let them soak and yes you'd be surprised how much better a proper brake pipe spanner works.
Also try tightening as well as loosening the joint.

 

[Dirtmatt]

As already said, let them soak and yes you'd be surprised how much better a proper brake pipe spanner works.
Also try tightening as well as loosening the joint.

Got the, soaking so maybe that will help, will see about the spanner as my mate said he has one. Just done to much damage to the nsf I recon. Long as I can get the rears off..

Failing that will heat.

 

[Dirtmatt]

Tried the nsf this morning and its just chewing the nut up off the hard pipe...

 

[JakeMac]

Tried the nsf this morning and its just chewing the nut up off the hard pipe...

Got a picture? Have you tried using two pairs of mole grips, one on the nut and one on the hose ferrule (metal collar attaching to hose)

 

[Dirtmatt]

Nope and ordered a new pipe as the end was knackered, used new mole grips to get the rears off, so they are all sorted.. Just the one front left

 

[JakeMac]

Nope and ordered a new pipe as the end was knackered, used new mole grips to get the rears off, so they are all sorted.. Just the one front left

Always one

 

[Dirtmatt]

Always one

Bleeding nightmare.. Has welded itself on. Least new pipe gives the simple option of cutting it off

Time to do a few other jobs too.

 

[JakeMac]

Bleeding nightmare.. Has welded itself on. Least new pipe gives the simple option of cutting it off

Time to do a few other jobs too.

I know that feeling! Every time I open the bonnet I see something else that requires attention all part of the fun I guess!

 

[Dirtmatt]

I know that feeling! Every time I open the bonnet I see something else that requires attention all part of the fun I guess!

Know that feeling, new pipe arrived today.. So got it all back together this evening.

First time I have used those compressor bleeding kits.. Awesome so much easier got the air out in no time just have to run and test it tomorrow evening lol

 

[JakeMac]

Know that feeling, new pipe arrived today.. So got it all back together this evening.

First time I have used those compressor bleeding kits.. Awesome so much easier got the air out in no time just have to run and test it tomorrow evening lol

Panic over!

Pressure bleeders are awesome, save so much time! If the pedals solid and dosent sink your onto a winner. Lol

 

[B6lee]

didnt think pressure bleaders worked on evo :thinking:

 

[JakeMac]

didnt think pressure bleaders worked on evo :thinking:

I meant in general, how come they dont work on evo's?

 

[B6lee]

I meant in general, how come they dont work on evo's?

i was told the seals in cylinder dont like them

 

[Dirtmatt]

i was told the seals in cylinder dont like them

Seems to have worked ok, would depend on what pressure you got the compressor at?

Going to find out soon enough lol.. Take hours bleeding the old way.