how much power can a gearbox take

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hi there this may be a stupid question i have a evo 8 fq300 which has now got a 5 speed box in rather than a 6 would there any reason for this are the 5s stronger than the 6 cheers :shock:
 
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On the VIII's the MR models had the 6 speed box in, the normal fq didn't though they have a 5 speed normally unless it's been up graded :)
 
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Um sorry foxy but all Evo 8/9 models have the 6 speed box. Except the RS and GT models which came with a 5.

The 5 speed is generally more reliable than the 6 ! :)
 
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Mine has a 6speed gear knob but only 5 gears
 
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[edit] Evolution VIIIEighth generation
Production January 2003 – March 2005
(February 2004 – August 2006 MR)
Platform CT9A
Transmission 5-speed manual
6-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,625 mm (103.3 in)
Length 4,490–4,535 mm (176.8–178.5 in)
Width 1,770 mm (69.7 in)
Height 1,450 mm (57.1 in)
Curb weight 1,320–1,410 kg (2,910–3,109 lb)
The Evolution VIII was modified again in 2003, this time sporting 17" grey Enkei wheels, Brembo Brakes and Bilstein shocks to handle traction and a 5-speed manual gearbox with 280 PS (202 kW; 276 hp)(approx. 234hp to the wheels). Originally a one off model, sales were so successful in the U.S. that by 2005 it was available in four trims: the standard GSR model in Japan, the RS, with an aluminum roof, 5-speed gearbox, and standard wheels (lacking excess components, such as interior map lights, power windows/doors, and radio),the SSL (with a sunroof, trunk mounted subwoofer, and leather seats),and the MR, which came with a revised limited-slip front differential, aluminum MR shift knob, handbrake with carbon fiber handle, 17 inch BBS wheels, aluminum roof, and a 6-speed manual gearbox. The new Evolution also sported chrome housing tail lights and head lights.

The Lancer Evolution VIII MR uses slick-response Bilstein shocks for improved handling. The aluminium roof panel and other reductions in body weight have lowered the centre of gravity to produce more natural roll characteristics. Detail improvements have also been made to Mitsubishi’s own electronic four-wheel drive, to the ACD 5 + Super AYC 6 traction control, and to the Sports ABS systems. The Lancer Evolution VIII displayed at the 2003 Tokyo Motor Show took the MR designation traditionally reserved for Mitsubishi Motors high-performance models (first used for the Galant GTO). Other parts on the MR include BBS alloy wheels, the aforementioned Bilstein shocks, and an aluminium roof. In the United Kingdom, many special Evolutions were introduced, including the FQ300, FQ320, FQ340, and FQ400 variants. They came with 305, 325, 345, and 405 hp (227, 239, 254 and 302 kW),respectively. Although Mitsubishi have not confirmed the fact, it is widely rumoured that the FQ stands for "****ing Quick".[6][7][8]

The FQ400, sold through Ralliart UK, produces 411 PS (302 kW; 405 hp) from its 2.0 L 4G63 engine, the result of special modifications by United Kingdom tuning firms Rampage Tuning, Owen Developments, and Flow Race Engines. At 202.9 hp (151.3 kW) per litre, it has one of the highest specific outputs per litre of any roadcar engine. With a curb weight of 1,450 kg (3,197 lb),it achieves 0–60 mph in 3.0 seconds, 0–100 mph in 9.1 seconds, 1/4 mile in 10.9 seconds at 118 mph (190 km/h),and a top speed of 175 mph (282 km/h) while costing £47,000. BBC's television series Top Gear demonstrated that the stock FQ-400 could surprisingly keep up with a Lamborghini Murciélago around a test track. The Stig recorded a Top Gear Power Lap Times of 1 minute and 24.8 seconds, 1.1 seconds slower than the Murciélago's time of 1 minute 23.7 seconds.[9] In a similar test conducted by Evo magazine, the Evolution was able to lap the Bedford Autodrome faster than an Audi RS4 and a Porsche 911 Carrera 4S.

The Lancer Evolution VIII was also the first Evolution to be sold in the United States,[10] spurred by the success of the Subaru Impreza WRX which had been released there just three years prior.[3] The Evolution VIII found its true competition in the Subaru Impreza WRX STI model the same year as the Evolution VIII's US introduction. However, the internal components for the American versions were largely stripped-down versions of the specifications for the Japanese Lancer Evolution VIII. No US-spec Evolution model prior to the Evo X has active yaw control, including the 2006 Evolution IX. The American 2003 and 2004 GSRs are without the helical limited-slip front differential and 6-speed manual transmission. The 2004 US spec RS models, however, do have a front helical limited-slip differential. All 2003, 2004 and 2005 RS and GSR models have the Japanese Evolution VII's 5-speed transmission. The MR edition was introduced to the US in 2005, with ACD and the only model with a 6-speed transmission. The 2005 US spec RS and GSR have the ACD standard, and the front helical limited-slip differential is now standard on all models. The boost, timing, and tuning are also significantly lower than its Japanese counterpart, allowing it to adhere to the strict emissions regulations of the United States. Starting in 2005, the US model Evos were also fitted with a 5000rpm limit on launching in 1st gear to protect the drivetrain.

Most Evolution VIIIs have a carbon fiber rear spoiler with matching body-color endplates. Furthermore, the US versions of the Lancer Evolution VIII 2003–2005 were given bulkier rear bumpers than their Japanese counterparts to accommodate US safety laws in the form of the metal rear crash bar. All Evos have lightweight aluminum front fenders and hoods. MR and RS editions have an aluminum roof. Additionally, MR Editions come equipped with a 6-speed transmission, Bilstein shocks, and factory optional BBS wheels.

The basic RS Edition does not come with power windows, locks, or mirrors, an audio system, rear wing, sound deadening material, map lamps or an anti-lock braking system. All Evo VIII RS models sold in the US have an air conditioning system.[11]

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has determined crash test ratings of Lancer of different model years[12]:

Model year Model Type Frontal driver rating Frontal passenger rating Side driver rating Side passenger rating 4x2 Rollover
2004 Lancer Evolution 4-DR N/A N/A N/A


just for you lee !!!
 
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Hm, just for you foxy as most of yours is about us cars I thought I'd remind everyone of the uk spec list :)


Evo VII

Import Models

Evo VII GSR

The Evo VII was the first of the CT9A models and shared the same basic chassis as the VIII, VIII MR, IX and IX MR.

The top of the range model (in terms of "luxury" options) was the GSR, with the RS being the model designed for competition.

Evo VII RS
e
As VII GSR, less:e
• Air con
• AYC
• Electric windows
• Electric folding mirrors
• Brembos
• Boot carpet
• Enkei alloy wheels
plus:
• shorter gearing

GSR deleted items could be added back as options.

Evo VII RSII

As VII GSR, less:
• Rear wash wiper
• Climate control
• Electric folding mirrors
plus:
• air con

UK Models

Evo VII FQ300

As VII RSII, plus:

• Power Engineering exhaust (not all models)
• Carbon FQ300 dash inserts
• FQ300 carbon inserts in spoiler uprights
• FQ badging (not carbon) on centre console & boot
• Model # on Slam panel
• Foglight in rear cluster
• Ralliart panel air filter
• Recaro seats (various options)

Evo VII GTA

As VII GSR, plus:

• Low spoiler with LED brake light (large spoiler or no spoiler options)
• No bonnet vents
• INVECS-II Sport Mode 5A/T transmission
• GTA Badging
• 15GK compressor housing
• 9.0 turbine housing
• Slightly detuned engine (272 bhp)
• Revised front bumper
• Centrally located number plate
• Vibration dampening steel oil pan
• Steel intercooler piping
• Electric wing mirrors
• Automatic headlights
• Chokepipe in back box
• HIDs + fog lamps
• Clear indicator lenses
• Clear rear lights (inc. indicator lense)
• White instrument dials with revised layout including drive selected
Mitsubishi steering wheel incl. mounted shift selector
• Centre console incl. auto gear stick
• Blue pearl dashboard trim, shift selector & window switch panel
• Blue stitching in seats, gear knob & hand brake
• Larger seats
• Adjustable arm rest with cupholders
• Sound insulation in dashboard, floor console, door trim & floor carpet
• Lower sash weather strip added to improve door sound insulation
• Altered suspension geometry & steering
• Matt finish wheels
• Leather seats optional

Available in [Colours]

Evo VIII (Chasis number CT9A 020 XXXX for JDM/FQ models)

UK Models

Evo VIII 260
• 2 cats (1 in down pipe, 1 in "normal" position)
• 5 speed gear box
• 9.8T housing (some with single flapper wastegate)
• Slightly modified Evo VII ECU (four plug with two different pins - Earth?)
• Euro Style Recaro interior c/w rear adjustable headrests - Leather / Suede option at cost
• Non-folding electric wing mirrors
• 8 MR pistons & head gasket
• No rear wash jet or wiper
• Small spoiler with brake light incorporated
• No SAS System
• UK style Number Plates
• Integrated Fog lamp in rear light cluster
• Single Din dash
• Kenwood 6 speaker CD / Radio system
• Large Battery
• Bridgestone Potenza tyres
• Non HID Headlights
• ISOfix points in rear seating
• 3x3 Point Rear Seat Belts

Evo VIII FQ 300 – as 260 plus:
• Upgraded blue/black interior inc. narrower seats
• HKS Superdrager catback with HKS downpipe exhaust
• 3 Plug ECU
• Secondary Air System (SAS)
• More aggressive cams
• Folding electric mirrors
• Double Din stereo slot
• Climate Control
• Fog light in bumper
• Japanese-style front number plate holder
• Only one catalytic converter
• HKS Hardpipe kit
• HKS panel filter
• 6 speed gear box
• Yokohama Advan A046 tyres
• Rear brake light in windscreen
• Larger carbon spoiler (body colour paint on outer uprights)



Evo VIII FQ 330 – As VIII FQ 300 plus:
•upgraded black alcantara/leather interior
•piggy back ecu
•restrictor in pipe connected to wastegate actuator
•smartnav

Import models

Evo VIII GSR – As UK VIII FQ 300 less:
• HKS Superdrager exhaust
• Foglight in bumper
• FQ Badges
• HKS Hardpipe kit

Evo VIII RS – As Evo VIII GSR plus:
• 5 speed box
• Stronger rear diff (non S-AYC)
less:
• Air Con
• Alloy wheels
• Recaro seats
• Electric windows

GSR deleted items available as optional extras.



Evo VIII MR (Chasis number CT9A 030 XXXX)

UK Models

Evo VIII MR FQ 300 – As VIII FQ 300 plus:
•10.5T (single flap) housing
•upgraded cams
•MR seats & door cards
•carbon effect dash inserts
•dark brushed steel steering wheel
•Bilstein shock absorbers
•aluminium used in roof & side door beams
•Team Dynamic (gunmetal) alloys
•black backing to front & rear lights
•13 row oil cooler
•twin boost solonoid
•optimisation and reinforcement of the oil channels in the pistons
•uprated 5-ply head gasket
•added tension in piston rings, v shaped groove in second land of pistons
•reduced weight S-AYC diff (alu casing),higher strength hypoid gears, operates even when ABS is activated.

Does not have:
•HKS Superdrager exhaust

Available in gunmetal grey, not available in black, yellow or blue.

Evo VIII MR FQ 320 – As VIII MR FQ 300 plus:
• HKS Superdrager exhaust
• HKS panel filter
• HKS hardpipe kit

Evo VIII MR FQ 340 – As VIII MR FQ 320, plus:
• Piggy back ECU
• Black leather/alcantara interior
• Optional smartnav

Evo VIII MR FQ 400 – As VIII MR FQ 320, plus:
• Forged engine
• Limited edition of 100 Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing turbocharger
• Owen Developments custom manufactured cast s/s
exhaust manifold & elbow
• Omega forged pistons
• HKS forged con rods
• HKS 680cc injectors
• Zytec ITP116 high pressure fuel pump
• HKS 1.6mm steel head gasket
• Motec M800 OEM ECU
• HKS iridium spark plugs
• Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
• Alcon 240mm high clamp mode, HD
clutch with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centered drive
plate
• HKS High Strength Head & Big End Bolts
• Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit with Monobloc 6 pot road caliper &
343mm curved vein disc, aluminium bell,
Ferodo DS2500 pads
• Ralliart carbon effect, electric Aero Mirrors
• Carbon fibre front lip
• Carbon fibre rear vortex generator
• PIAA High Performance light & wiper upgrade
• Half leather and FQ400 Logo in Seats optional extra
• Gloss black Team Dynamics lightweight alloy wheels

Import models

Evo VIII MR – As Evo VIII GSR plus:
• 10.5T (single flap) housing
• Upgraded intake cam
• Modified pistons
• MR interior
• Bilstein shock absorbers
• Aluminium roof
• BBS alloys
• Black backing to front & rear lights
• Available in gunmetal grey, not available in black, yellow or blue.


Evo VIII MR RS (5 speed) – As Evo VIII MR plus:
• 5 speed box (6 speed optional)
• Stronger rear diff (non S-AYC)
• Silver backed lights
less:

• Uprated intake cam
• 10.5T hotside
• 5 ply headgasket
• Modified pistons
• Air Con
• Alloy wheels
• Recaro seats
• Electric windows

GSR deleted items available as optional extras.


Evo IX (Chasis number: CT9A 040 XXXX)

Import models

Evo IX GSR – As VIII MR plus:
• Mivec
• Larger compressor housing diffuser (16G6C)
• No spacesaver spare tyre
• Gloss black backing to front & rear lights
• Rear diffuser bumper
• Restyled front bumper with twin oval air inlets
• Different size rear oil return to block
• Plastic spoiler uprights
• Evo IX Enkei Alloys.

Available in Cool Silver, Flame Red, Electric Blue, Frost White, Amethyst Black and Solar Yellow.

Evo IX GT – As IX GSR plus:
• Magnesium Compressor wheel
• Titanium turbine wheel
• 5 speed gearbox
• GT interior
• RS Front Diff Set Up (non S-AYC)
• Improved drive train

Less?:
• Air conditioning (Opt.Extra?)
• Electric Windows (Opt. Extra?)
• Remote Central Locking (Opt. Extra?)

Evo IX MR – As IX GSR plus:
• No additional alarm fob (built into key);
• Ralliart Wing Mirrors (on some models)
• Carbon front lip
• New turbo with titanium aluminium alloy turbo fins & reduction in compressor inlet diameter (15.5)
• 17in, 11-spoke Speedline Turini alloy wheels
• Privacy glass
• Lowered ‘Eibach’ coil springs – 10mm front / 5mm rear
• Aluminium door sill plates
• Piano black dash inserts
• Available in Gunmetal Grey, not available in Black, yellow or blue.

Evo IX MR RS – As IX MR plus:
• RS Front Diff Set Up
• 5 speed gearbox
• Improved drive train

Available in Solid White or Solid Red.

Less:
• Air conditioning (Optional Extra?);
• Electric Windows (Opt. Extra?);
• Remote Central Locking (Opt. Extra?);
• Recaro Seats;
• IX Enkei alloys (comes with steel wheels).


Evo IX RS – As IX MR RS plus:
...
Only available in Solid White?

UK models

Evo IX FQ 300 – As IX GSR plus:
• Foglight
• PIAA lights and wipers
• FQ badges
• HKS panel filter

Evo IX FQ 320 – As FQ300 plus:
• HKS Superdrager exhaust
• HKS hardpipe kit
• Keyless entry
• Ralliart sports pedals
• Puncture repair kit

Evo IX FQ 340 – As IX FQ 320 plus:
• SmartNav
• Ralliart Leather/alcantara seats
• Remap


Evo IX FQ 360 – As IX FQ 340 plus:
• Race Cat
• Ecutek remap
• Speedline 5 spoke alloys
• Triple Gauge Din Unit: battery voltage, Oil temp. and Boost (reads up to 1.5bar)
• Uprated 225 l/ph fuel pump
• Carbon vortex generator
• Carbon front splitter



Evo IX MR FQ 360 – As IX MR plus:
• Race Cat
• Triple Gauge Din Unit: battery voltage, Oil temp. & Boost (reads up to 1.5bar)
• Ecutek remap
• Leather & Alcantara seats with ‘IX MR’ logo (leather delete option)
• Carbon Vortex Generator
• 6 Speakers as standard
• SAYC changed to give increased torque differential across rear axle
• Uprated fuel pump
• "By HKS" badge on boot
• Available in Cool Silver, Gunmetal Grey, Flame Red, Pearl White, not available in Black, yellow or blue.
 
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Foxy - thats the USDM marketing speil, not the UK. USDM 8's came with a 5 speed box as standard.
 
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hi there this may be a stupid question i have a evo 8 fq300 which has now got a 5 speed box in rather than a 6 would there any reason for this are the 5s stronger than the 6 cheers :shock:

To answer your question - 5 speeds are pretty much the same strength, its the internals themselves that tend to strip teeth or the casing gives in on a 6 speed. I have a 6 GSR gearbox on my 9 and its fine at over 600bhp :)
 
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So I'm reading that some of the bigger evOs have ecutek maps as standard?? So why do mappers charge for something a car already has installed???
 
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So I'm reading that some of the bigger evOs have ecutek maps as standard?? So why do mappers charge for something a car already has installed???

Only on the 9 mr fq360 :)

Mappers will still charge for there time :)

Oh and nice spelling edit :razz:
 
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Thanks guys I know my car is near 400 bhp just wondered if box could take that
 
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As it says on Lee's post, the Evo 8 260 model has a 5 speed box.

I run a 5 speed in mine, and currently have 595 bhp going through it quite happily. I did break my first box after 4 days of ownership, the second box did 6 months, the current one has been in there for best part of a year now though.
 
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Um sorry foxy but all Evo 8/9 models have the 6 speed box. Except the RS and GT models which came with a 5.

The 5 speed is generally more reliable than the 6 ! :)

Sorry pal but your wrong too lol.

Did you forget about the poor mans evo (8 - 260)?... Comes with the 5 speed:razz:

And here's a geek to back it up...

As it says on Lee's post, the Evo 8 260 model has a 5 speed box.

I run a...

In answer to the ops question I gotta say, you want to be worried about the rear dif popping or dropping off before the gearbox letting you down:wtf:
 
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