Evo 9 turbo conversion !!!

[RsvRob]

evo 8 vs 9 differences

Thought this might help with some thinking of doing it...

 

[Simon@NTS]

good stuff rob

 

[gooner8]

very useful! 9 one is so much bigger! Could you put a 9 coldside on to an 8 or even a 5 or 6 tub anything with a 10.5 hot side ?

 

[RsvRob]

Probably yes. But it's normally that side that fails. So getting one would be difficult...

 

[Dirtmatt]

There is a big difference wouldn't of thought it would be like that...

Guess then that all aftermarket ones that use stock frame are using a 9 frames?

 

[evoaps]

Very topical thread for me got an 80 series fitted to my V

Collecting it tomorrow

 

[evoaps]

 

[evoaps]

Hoping for 370-380 ish

 

[B6lee]

Go careful apsy. Rods won't take anymore than around 360 but with a IX turbo fitted you'll notice it boosts alot quicker

 

[evoaps]

Go careful apsy. Rods won't take anymore than around 360 but with a IX turbo fitted you'll notice it boosts alot quicker

if she blows or throws a rod i will have a good excuse to forge her,I also wont be p*ssed off if it does happen as i know 370 + is asking alot

 

[m7gsr]

if she blows or throws a rod i will have a good excuse to forge her,I also wont be p*ssed off if it does happen as i know 370 + is asking alot

Lets hope it blows up then :whistling::whistling::ninja::ninja:
Just joking

 

[B6lee]

Cheaper to forge it now before a rod destroys the block

 

[Dirtmatt]

Getting an fp green guess that should be about the same size

 

[evoaps]

Cheaper to forge it now before a rod destroys the block

it is a gamble but we will see what happens

 

[Dirtmatt]

Cheaper to forge it now before a rod destroys the block

Lol....

 

[RsvRob]

Just to add

Mitsubishi OEM Turbo Specifications

Flow Rates @ 15psi:
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM

Max Output:
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi

Evolution 1 Turbo
TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Exhaust turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide

Evolution 2 Turbo
TDO5H–16G-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 60mm wide

Evolution 3 Turbo
TD05H–16G6-7
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 7
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution 4 Turbo
TD05HR-16G6-9T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution 5 Turbo
TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy) Titanium alloy (RS)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution 6 Turbo
TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy) Titanium alloy (RS/RS2)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution 6 : Tommi Makinen Edition Turbo
TD05RA-15GK2-10.5T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (RS/rs2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5
Turbine = Titanium alloy for both RS/RS2/GSR!
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm (gsr) - 68mm(rs) wide

Evolution 7 Turbo
TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = GSR - Inconel (steel alloy) RS/Rs2=Titanium alloy
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution 7 GTA Turbo
TD05-15GK2-9.0T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.0
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm wide

Evolution 8 Turbo
TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (GSR / USDM)
TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T (RS/RS2 & NZDM) or 6MT:TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (model unknown)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.8
Turbine = USDM EVO 8 & JDM GSR =Inconel (steel alloy) RS=Titanium alloy
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution MR aka "8.5"
GSR =
TD05HR-16G6-10.5T
TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (Ti Alloy option)
RS =
6MT:TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T
5MT:TD05HRA-16G6-9.8T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 or 9.8(RS-5speed)
Compressor = Aluminium, 68mm wide

Evolution 9 USDM & JDM
TD05HRA-16G6C-10.5T
Turbine: GSR / GT = Inconel alloy, RS = Titanium alloy
Compressor: GSR / GT = Aluminium, RS = Magnesium Alloy (??) mm wide (to be verified.)
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 10.5 (note: to be confirmed that RS 5MT has 10.5)

RS E9 turbo part number 1515A059 (approx cost 250,000 yen from Mitsi Japan). *Warning* There are reports of RS magnesium compressor wheel failing if boosted above stock boost.

More Evo 9 Turbo info: ...
* New more efficient & larger Compressor preventing compressor surge ...
* Better pump gas efficiency ...
* Turbine Nozzle Area (cm2) = Large 10.5 Hotside (single flapper) ...
* Improve actuator design

 

[Dirtmatt]

Nice work there mate, some good reading..

 

[evoaps]

Collected my car a few hours ago alot of extra pull, spools up alot quicker

 

[Winkle]

So if I wanted to fit a 9 turbo to my evo 8 , would it just be a case of new turbo bolted on and a remap. Or would the down pipe need some changing?

 

[Dirtmatt]

Oil feeds are different and so is the j pipe.. The rest should fit fine. Would run without a remap but map would make the most of it.. Worth replacing the downpipe to a true 3 inch and the hks is 2.75 and more restrictive