Another clutch change post

[Dirtmatt]

That's some good going, never fun off the floor.. Don't fancy it on my own although did with the gt4 on a few occasions. Agree on the getting the box back in can be 5 minutes of 3 hours seems to be no easy way just some good luck..had some fortune doing your mates car for it to pop in

Cheers mate, that's alright it's not good timing but never is..lol

Will prob catch you on Saturday.

 

[B6lee]

Will do mate see you there

 

[Dirtmatt]

Well that 5 hours went and still didn't get it finished.. Nothing but problems, seized in drive shaft..snapped bolt on the downpipe. Had to drop the subframe to get clearance! Can't for the life of me get the release bearing out, clearly doing something wrong?! Spent all afternoon on it and still not out..

Think I got all the bolts off, just the bearing left! Pop off, don't think so lol..

 

[evo arm's m7960]

sorry to here that mate :O(

some times it better to walk away and come back to it later :O)

the bearing can be tricky but if you follow the guide in the tech manual it can be done :O)

good luck mate

A = away from the engine
B= towards the engine


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REMOVAL SERVICE POINTS
ACLUTCH RELEASE BEARING SEPARATION
(1) Remove the cover from the service hole in the clutch
housing.
(2) While pushing the release fork by hand in the direction
A, insert a flap-tip screwdriver between the release bearing
and the wedge collar.
Caution
Be sure to push the release fork in the direction A
before inserting a screwdriver.
(3) Separate the release bearing from the wedge collar by
prying with the screwdriver (turning the screwdriver grip
90).
NOTE
The release fork is forced to move fully in the direction
B by the return spring as soon as it is separated from
the wedge collar.
Caution
If it is hard to turn the screwdriver (to pry off the
release bearing),remove the screwdriver once and
repeat the above procedure after pushing the release
fork fully in the direction A two to three times. Forcibly
prying can cause the release bearing to be damaged.

 

[Dirtmatt]

Will have a go tomorrow, did exactly what it said, think its half out but just had enough by that point...didn't help doing it by myself, had some help with the bearing but no luck..

Got a mate coming tomorrow and he has done it before so maybe he has the nack to get the bearing out.

These things are sent to test us lol..

 

[evo arm's m7960]

first time i did mine i couldnt get my head round it being a pull type but after the clip on mine snapped i had to take the clip apart and its quite clever design , but frustrating :O)

:O)


http://www.evoowners.co.uk/f4/clutch-fault-o-broken-release-bearing-7877.html#axzz1vCWAr3G9

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[evo arm's m7960]

the easiest way to describe it is use the arm to move the bearing away from the clutch.

at the same time put the end of a screw driver between the bearing and the thin metel spacers and push the spacers away from the bearing towards the clutch.

and it should let go , you may have to wiggle the arm a little :O)

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[Dirtmatt]

sorry to here that mate :O(

some times it better to walk away and come back to it later :O)

the bearing can be tricky but if you follow the guide in the tech manual it can be done :O)

good luck mate

A = away from the engine
B= towards the engine


.
REMOVAL SERVICE POINTS
ACLUTCH RELEASE BEARING SEPARATION
(1) Remove the cover from the service hole in the clutch
housing.
(2) While pushing the release fork by hand in the direction
A, insert a flap-tip screwdriver between the release bearing
and the wedge collar.
Caution
Be sure to push the release fork in the direction A
before inserting a screwdriver.
(3) Separate the release bearing from the wedge collar by
prying with the screwdriver (turning the screwdriver grip
90).
NOTE
The release fork is forced to move fully in the direction
B by the return spring as soon as it is separated from
the wedge collar.
Caution
If it is hard to turn the screwdriver (to pry off the
release bearing),remove the screwdriver once and
repeat the above procedure after pushing the release
fork fully in the direction A two to three times. Forcibly
prying can cause the release bearing to be damaged.

Did that mate, still no luck have a try tomorrow

 

[Dirtmatt]

the easiest way to describe it is use the arm to move the bearing away from the clutch.

at the same time put the end of a screw driver between the bearing and the thin metel spacers and push the spacers away from the bearing towards the clutch.

and it should let go , you may have to wiggle the arm a little :O)

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Cheers mate, will have a go at that, think I got it moving but possible done it wrong..

 

[evo arm's m7960]

if you have the new clutch and bearing sitting there waiting , then have a practice on that one first :O)

try and get a idea of how the clip works on the new one :O)

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[Dirtmatt]

Can see how it works off the new one, reading the write up while doing it I picked up th wrong idea which is probably why it's still on the car,

Not like the bearing being held to the clutch, silly idea ;-)

 

[B6lee]

Can see how it works off the new one, reading the write up while doing it I picked up th wrong idea which is probably why it's still on the car,

Not like the bearing being held to the clutch, silly idea ;-)

It is a silly idea but so simple once you get the idea.
Basically compress the shall we say, cage by moving the clutch fork so the the bearing is tight against pressure plate. Holding it there insert a screwdriver between the bearing and the sprung ring. Then move clutch fork the other direction while turning screwdriver in order to keep that spring loaded ring against the pressure plate and the arm will pull the bearing out.

It's easier with 2 people. One to operate the clutch arm and another on the screwdriver.

 

[fq-craigus]

As already said, it's a hellavu lot easier with 2 people

 

[Dirtmatt]

Gearbox is out... Wasn't stock clutch looks like a badly installed exedy

 

[B6lee]

exedy made clutches for mitsi so are oe

 

[evo arm's m7960]

well done :O)

should be easy for now on :O)

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[Dirtmatt]

What a four paddle clutch plate? Looks hardly worn, nothing to show why it would slip and be at the top of the pedal...

Goes from bad to worse to be honest...

 

[evo arm's m7960]

hi buddy

just a idea when its all back together check the clutch peddle adjustment " spec in the manual" as a poorly adjusted peddle " no free play " can give a high peddle and hold the clutch on so it slips .

and its almost impossible to bleed as i found out when i first got my e4 :O(


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[B6lee]

no, 4 paddle aint standard. and they are rubbish lol

as said, check the adjustment in the pedal but id fit new clutch anyway as you wouldnt wanna take the box back out again

 

[Dirtmatt]

Cheers both...

Don't rate the paddle clutch then, heard them being slated before, are the cover plates re usable? Or once out that's it?