a clutch or not a clutch that is the question?

[richo7256]

ok i had this problem for the last 1500miles
started when i brought the car took it home next day went to start started fine but couldnt get it in any gear after about 10 secs it went into gear

i then drove it from uk to germany and driving it around 50km aday since
its been like that since then

around 100 miles ago i had a service my mitsubishi all and only oils replaced still same problem and its only when i first start driving doesnt matter what time of the day

i hope it aint the clutch but looking though service history from 2005 till now its never been done and (around 50000 miles (the history is full minus 2011 when he sold it on and he even got reciepts for change light bulbs so lol)

no play in clutch pedal as far as i know

no slipping

pulls fine

done a stall test all fine

even went a bit harder pressed the brake pedal and acclorater at same time for 10 sec still no slipping ???


sorri for the essay i thought i would put as much in as i can to make it easyier

 

[foxy lady x]

Could possibly be the release bearing in the gear box or slave cylinder.

 

[richo7256]

Thanks foxy thank u for your help time to Order from camskills again lmao

 

[fq-craigus]

I would get it along to a garage before you start throwing money at parts, I have done this many times and bought and replaced parts that didn't need doing because I was goin by speculation, pull your slave cylinder by hand it will be tough but do able if it goes back to place relatively trouble free I would say its fine, did all the gearbox oils get changed on the service? I would be tempted to drop the gear oil and check for any swarf, possibly release bearing but not usually a common problem

 

[fq-craigus]

Try bleeding the clutch actually before anything else, may have some air trapped

 

[richo7256]

Ok gonna find a garage today and get the clutch drained cheapest method clutch doesn't look like its leaking anything out been full since I had it also pedal goes to the floor but a lot of force to push the pedal back up also it's got a very high biting point
Cheers
Rich

 

[fq-craigus]

Might need some adjustment on the clutch pedal, the adjuster is just at the top of the pedal not sure which way is which though, bite should be around half way or just over

 

[richo7256]

Well still doing it MIT cant book it in till next week but notice just now it judders if not enough gas is given and sometimes grinds getting into reverse I think it's the clutch sadly

 

[fq-craigus]

Sad news mate,

 

[richo7256]

I know I think some time with a punch bag will make it better whats even better here in Germany every garage apart from 1 Mitsubishi garage refuse to touch it even to do the brakes lmao they all so nope not touching it go MIT and out of the 3 MIT garages here only 1 say that they are willing due to not having the right trained people lmao good times all round lucky I get tax free here lol so -19% of total
List of things so far
Clutch
Timing belt
Brakes
Tyres need doing and all = poorly wallet and angry wife hahha

 

[raph]

remember,i have a flywheel thats hardly used and a throwout earing..dhl will deliver it the next day to you or the garage thats doing the swap.
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here are some part numbers,oem and aftermarket.

edit: Slave cylinder is MD 748617

crossreference aftermarket part number (Herth+Buss JaKoparts ) : J2605039

Would cost around 70 euros incl mwst.

OEM clutch disc : MD749921 (epc shows no price,sorry)

aftermarket : Sachs nr:1878 600 918 (180 euro for the disc)

so those would be the bits you will need

Do not buy the "fast road clutch" off ebay..the one with the red/orange/green cover..absolute shite and will last 3000 miles.

pm me if you need any more info or help.

Smaller garages are closed on easter saturday too.

Have you checked the slave cylinder? is it wet/weeping around the rubber bit? squeeze the rubber it and see if brake fluid leaks out.(eye protection,dont want that squirting in your eyes)

 

[richo7256]

Wow cheers mate yeah I am keeping the flywheel in mind I am going to let them strip it and see weather it needs replacing as funds are going to be tight lol
I ain't tryes that with the slave yet I will try it but I ain't losing and fluid will try tomorrow morning that Sachs no is that price for a pressure plate aswell or just disc Yeah MIT said can't do it till the 11 so.. I ain't going eBay for one If the one from MIT is to expensive then I will go on camskill they sell pp clutch and throw bearing for 208 pp so

 

[raph]

ok!

 

[richo7256]

But deffo take u up on that bud if I need it and if u don't sell it b4 hand are you going to car freitag on Friday where u based to

 

[richo7256]

Just check slave abserlutly ok in and out movement also no leaks at all
Did notice the master moves slightly when pedal is pressed around 2/3 mm

 

[raph]

tried the adjustment on the master cylinder/top of pedal where it meets the master cyli?

 

[fq-craigus]

That the one mate, made any difference?

 

[richo7256]

Just been in MIT garage tested it master cylinder and slave a all good clutch is on its way out so thanx everyone for you help it's great to have this forum
And ralf I will be in touch about the fly wheel it's going in on Tuesday and I will let you know they did bleed the clutch as well nothing wrong and he said that that movement wouldnt do this and said adjusting it would of only delayed it going sadly

Thank you everybody for you help I will up load a pic of the clutch when it's stripped
Haha
Cheers

 

[Steve220]

It sounds like an adjustment issue to me.

 

[fq-craigus]

Well at least you have got to the bottom of it mate. What is mitz charging for the luxury of workin on your car I hear they usually charge upwards of 1k supply and fit of a clutch