Evo 8 or 9?

[mcorey]

Hi guys, been doing a bit of research into this and just a bit torn between the two really. I know the 9 has a bigger turbo and mivec, so more power as standard. But am I right in hearing the 8 is better for tuning? I wouldn't be looking at going crazy power any ways, prob around 400 - 450.
Also I know the 6 speed box is a weakness, one to keep away from?
Cheers

 

[mart1983]

e9! cant see why a 8 is better for tuning?

 

[mcorey]

I'm a complete noob to the evo scene so just hearing mixed things between owners really, appreciate the help

 

[Billy MR]

Gary @ APT says they are easier to tune ( 8MR ) I've been looking into buying a 9 and a few people have said there is no point along with Gary unless I go for a 9GT
Which I will do when the right one comes up.

A 400bhp evo is the perfect road car and fairly good on the track

 

[mcorey]

What's special about the 9GT?

 

[CHUBBYSDAD]

I've never heard about 8s being easier to tune
Besides that you should buy whatever you like the look of and look for one in as good a condition you can find for your budget with any bits and pieces fitted to it that you would want if a tuned/modded one is what you are looking for.
A 9 may well be in better condition than an 8 due to its age but 9s are even getting on a bit now and if it hasn't been looked after could be a dog by now.
J

 

[Billy MR]

What's special about the 9GT?

Few pounds lighter and a 5 speed nothing exciting really

 

[mcorey]

Ah awesome, just nice to know a few bits really and things to look out for when looking for one. Personally I like the look of the 9 IMO. If I was to get hold of a standard 9, would it be big £ to get it to 400 - 450? Don't really want any more power than that as i know things can start getting un reliable and don't want to be forking money every 5 mins for repairs

 

[Billy MR]

400 is easy enough to see and is the limit on the standard engine.

What's your budget?

 

[CHUBBYSDAD]

A lot more ££ to safely get 450 than 400
Simple mods like exhaust, breathing, fuel pump, boost control and a map will see 400 brake on 7/8/9 Evos. FQ versions will have most as std.
My 9 FQ 360 for example only had a full Miltek exhaust added to it and because the 360 has a few extra bits as std. was about 400, a bit less on torque though.
Once you see any more than 400/400 you will start to put strain on a lot of parts and costs can start to spiral.
J

 

[mcorey]

Budget is going to be around 12 I would imagine. Can go a bit either way will see at the time

 

[Billy MR]

I could be tempted

 

[fq-craigus]

Good choice on model as the 8/9 are better as for tuning...... The 9 with the mivec is stronger Nd can handle more power yes, the 8 how ever isn't a slouch and not very far behind to be honest. The 8 isn't easier to then but there and more people able to map the 8 ecu's as opposed to the 9's

 

[mcorey]

A lot more ££ to safely get 450 than 400
Simple mods like exhaust, breathing, fuel pump, boost control and a map will see 400 brake on 7/8/9 Evos. FQ versions will have most as std.
My 9 FQ 360 for example only had a full Miltek exhaust added to it and because the 360 has a few extra bits as std. was about 400, a bit less on torque though.
Once you see any more than 400/400 you will start to put strain on a lot of parts and costs can start to spiral.
J

Ah right fair shout so a lot bigger £ to get to 450 then like internals etc? That's prob gunna be about right then 400/400. I would imagine any ways that that is an all round good setup for the road? Can't really see me tracking it as such. Just fancy a lot more grip as running 300bhp fwd ATM, corners well but not under full power, as u can imagine, goes In a straight line haha

 

[mcorey]

Good choice on model as the 8/9 are better as for tuning...... The 9 with the mivec is stronger Nd can handle more power yes, the 8 how ever isn't a slouch and not very far behind to be honest. The 8 isn't easier to then but there and more people able to map the 8 ecu's as opposed to the 9's

Yeah I do really like the 8/9 shape I think they are stunning. Been in a few as passenger and they are awesome.

 

[CHUBBYSDAD]

All my personal opinion of course but for a 9 just getting used the road I would say -
400/400 power wise, any more and you are wringing the std. engines neck and you will eat std. clutches.
A set of lowering springs, not coil overs as they are too harsh for our shitty roads.
Stick with 17" wheels, I felt that 18's were a step backwards other than looks of course.
Decent pads, XP 8 or DS2500 will do there's no point in anything too track focused as they will need heat to work right.
Decent tyres, Eagle F1's are doing me fine on my 5 just now.
Anything else is wasted on the road but then if you do want to take it to a track day, which you should you are still good to go
J

 

[mcorey]

Cheers for the help guys